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I'm a little wary of saying this, and certainly wary of how I say this, but I feel really sorry for all the ex-Lostprophets members who aren't Ian Watkins. I mean, they made five radio-friendly albums and could have expected royalties from record sales and radio plays for years to come.

Then it turns out that their lead singer is a pervert of the kind that doesn't believe in safe, sane, and consensual. Now that back catalogue is worth nothing. Who the hell is going to play songs with lyrics written by - and sung by - a predatory paedophile?

Becoming a fan of a band as an adult is different to when you're a teenager. I couldn't have honestly named any of the members of Lostprophets before this news story broke. I didn't really know what they looked like or anything like that, but I was quite a fan of their music and played Liberation Transmission a lot. Now I can't listen to any of it.

I keep thinking it wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't the singer. As it is, I find myself wondering if there were hidden meanings in any of the lyrics. I just don't want to go there.

I can imagine there are a lot of fans who did get into them as teenagers and who are now devastated. And of course, I feel sorry for the victims. But my strongest feelings are for the rest of the band. Those guys - not only have they lost their income, but there's always going to be a question mark over them in some people's eyes. Even when news stories relate how Ian Watkins started to travel separately from them and stay in different hotels, as if he was hiding his activities. Will they ever be able to get back into the music business? Will they ever want to?

If you, e.g. live outside the UK and have no idea what I'm talking about, this is the BBC's news story. But I do put serious trigger warnings around that. Even discussed in matter-of-fact BBC style, what he's pleaded guilty to is disgusting. I certainly wouldn't recommend searching for tabloid stories.

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redbird From: redbird Date: 30th November 2013 02:35 (UTC) (Link)
I'm sorry this is hitting you hard, and I agree it's hard for his bandmates: the rational mind may see that they did nothing wrong, but the less-rational conscious one is going to be thinking "didn't I heard something weird about him?" or "I know you're innocent, but I don't want to see news stories about my new band that say 'including so-and-so, formerly of Lostprophets.'"
hiddenpaw From: hiddenpaw Date: 30th November 2013 06:11 (UTC) (Link)
I sort of know how you feel. You probably know the Love I have for Christmas cheese so at this time of year it becomes noticeable that I now have to feel obliged to skip one of my favourite Christmas numbers when it gets dragged up on an old compilation or from the depths of my MP3 collection in case somebody hears me listening to it on the street outside the shop.I also worry for what classic songs may be lost from Christmas Top Of The Pops because footage of various DJs are to irremovably intertwined with them. It's strange that this is what turns my disgust at some people in to something approaching anger (As close as I ever get.
baratron From: baratron Date: 2nd December 2013 02:24 (UTC) (Link)
Mmm, yes.

Well, I assume in this day and age, our computer technology's good enough that we could fairly happily airbrush out Pervy DJ and replace him with a computer-generated avatar. Or if it isn't now, it soon will be. But that rather requires finding out exactly who all the Pervy DJs are :/
johnckirk From: johnckirk Date: 30th November 2013 11:59 (UTC) (Link)
Last month I posted about some of the music I listen to, including the band "Chameleon Circuit" (inspired by Doctor Who). Looking at their Twitter account, one of the original members has left: they didn't say why, but it correlates to him allegedly performing a non-consensual sex act on a fan behind his girlfriend's back. However, I still enjoy the music that he made as part of the group.

In the case of Lostprophets, I don't think I've ever heard any of their songs, and this hasn't motivated me to seek them out. However, the music is still be available through iTunes/YouTube/etc. so some people may keep buying it.
nitoda From: nitoda Date: 1st December 2013 09:17 (UTC) (Link)
Lost Profits indeed.
ailbhe From: ailbhe Date: 1st December 2013 15:21 (UTC) (Link)
Yes, it's awful when it's not someone you know, but when it is, at least part of them will be thinking "Why didn't we realise he was up to no good?" because they worked with him, they might now be able to see the signs they missed before...
johnckirk From: johnckirk Date: 1st December 2013 16:49 (UTC) (Link)
There's an interesting article here from one of his former friends, asking precisely that question:
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/2013/11/_this_is_ian_watkins.php
baratron From: baratron Date: 2nd December 2013 02:17 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for the link. It's a really good article.

I was reading the band's official statement (warning, involves Facebook) and for every maybe 8 or 9 positive messages there's one really negative, nasty one. It reinforces what I was saying - his friends almost certainly had no clue, but now they're being tarred with the same brush.
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