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I hate shopping for clothes! - helen-louise
I hate shopping for clothes!
This evening I am feeling awful for some reason. All useless and depressed. I have spare time (for once!) but no motivation to do *anything*, let alone tackling things from the list of Stuff I Should Be Doing. This may be connected to the latest rearrangement of meds, not sure :/

Right now I'm trying to find some environmentally friendly/ethical/free trade clothing in my size, ideally from places with physical shops that I can go to, and it's breaking my brain.

1. I want clothes that have been produced in an ethical and environmental way but which look like normal clothes rather than tie-dye "freesize" floaty hippy stuff. (I have nothing against such clothes but already own as many of them as I want. It's regular black trousers, jeans & leggings that I need now.)

2. Buying online is almost completely impossible because my size varies so much depending on which part of me you measure. In particular, my bottom is enormous compared to the rest of me, and I've always needed to buy trousers in at least one size bigger than I usually am - which then are often far too big around the waist. I basically have to try clothes on to be sure that they'll fit.

3. Most of the online shops I've looked at so far only go up to a size 14 or 16. A UK 12-14 is not LARGE, damnit! And it certainly shouldn't be the largest size the shop carries considering that 16 is the modal size here! (Do they want to exclude 50-60% of potential customers?)

4. Even if "plus size" ethical clothing retailers exist, I'm leery about them because "plus size" clothes always seem designed for tall apple-shaped women, and I'm most definitely a pear. I once tried on every pair of fake leather trousers in Evans, from a 16 up to a 26, just to make a point about their clothing shape. I was about a size 18 at the time, but I couldn't even get the 26 over my bottom and thighs, while there was enough space around the waist for Richard to get into the trousers with me.

*brain explodes*

I'm sure London must contain more ethical clothing shops than just the People Tree part of Whole Foods (which carries extremely limited sizes) and the People Tree bit of the Topshop in Oxford Circus, but I'm not doing terribly well in a web search. Hmmm. Also, hardly any of People Tree's clothes exist in a size 18 anyway. Bah.

For personal reference, list of shops that have nice clothes that DON'T COME IN MY SIZE:
Eco Fibres/Conscious Clothing - Brighton
By Nature - UK - thinks a size 14-16 is large
Ganesha Fair Trade Clothing - London - goes up to a 14 in some sizes & 16 in others
Equa Clothing - London - only for sizes 8-14
Natural Collection - particularly annoying because organic utility-chic trousers are the sort of trousers I'd rather like.
Namaste UK.

Some of Nomads Clothing stuff may fit me - I rather like the velvet princess dress and the midi sundress. A handful of their clothes come in 18-20 and 20-22, e.g. tie dye sleeveless dress.

Gossypium's drawstring trousers and pull on pants (technically pyjamas, but who cares?) are about what I'm after, at least for casual clothing, but it seems somewhat random what sizes they have a particular item in.

I also found a blog post Plus size organic clothing, but I think all the retailers are in the US and American jeans sizes make absolutely no sense to me.

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karen2205 From: karen2205 Date: 7th June 2008 22:42 (UTC) (Link)
I'm not sure what counts as ethical/environmentally friendly for you, but M&S do sell Fairtrade jeans (+ lots of Fairtrade fairly plain tops too). Hope you manage to find what you're looking for without too much hassle.
baratron From: baratron Date: 7th June 2008 23:14 (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, Ludy mentioned them last week. Apparently they have Fairtrade and organic cotton, but I'm not sure if they manage to combine Fairtrade and organic in the same garments. I'll certainly have a look. But M&S sizing is often weird on me, so I don't hold out too much hope.

Was it you who was ranting about women's fashion the other day? How we're all bound by the same styles regardless of body shape? Drives me nuts. There are certain styles that look great on me, and others where I'd need two sizes bigger than usual to even attempt to squeeze in (and the trousers would still look like crap). And the clothes that I look good in are hardly ever in fashion, so... blah.
barakta From: barakta Date: 7th June 2008 23:56 (UTC) (Link)
I've ranted about women's fashion before... So it might have been me too. Good luck with shopping satan's activity - yuck
nyecamden From: nyecamden Date: 8th June 2008 08:24 (UTC) (Link)
Oh, 2. I'm with you on 2. Having relatively typical female fat distribution and shopping for male out-size clothing is not easy. At my size and budget I have no choice but to shop online, so I end up exchanging things a lot. I also cannot get dress shirts to fit me unless I throw lots of money away. Slender neck and obese middle = shirt lose.

Also, there's just no way I can get hold of fair-trade/organic clothes in my size so I don't try. And most fat people don't seem to give their clothes to charity shops :(
From: kshandra Date: 8th June 2008 20:45 (UTC) (Link)
And most fat people don't seem to give their clothes to charity shops :(

In my case, at least, that tends to be because I wear my clothes till they are no longer presentable in public (inseams blown out on jeans, permanent food stains on shirts, etc.).
nyecamden From: nyecamden Date: 8th June 2008 20:56 (UTC) (Link)
My theory is that most fat people do that because of the scarcity of decent new clothes.
baratron From: baratron Date: 8th June 2008 22:54 (UTC) (Link)
Sadly, I reckon that theory is 100% correct.

In my case, I'm somewhat pissed off because I got rid of a load of "fat" clothes when I nonconsensually lost a huge amount of body mass due to being really ill with gallstones. I didn't expect to ever put ALL the weight back on because my diet totally changed. And the weight gain appears to have been a medication issue rather than a diet or exercise issue, because I've been off mirtazapine for about six weeks and have already visibly lost mass without any other changes to my lifestyle. Still a PITA, though :/ And really frustrating.

I feel like a failure for being back in a size 20 - even though a) the trousers I bought are 100% cotton, so it's not sensible to buy the size 18 when I know they'll shrink and b) that's a Marks and Spencer's size 20, which is like an 18 in most other shops. Bah.
From: kshandra Date: 8th June 2008 20:47 (UTC) (Link)
Most US vendors sell jeans by waist measurement x inside-leg measurement. Which doesn't necessarily help if you have a wasit-to-hip ratio like mine (that "two hours' worth of sand" issue we've discussed before).
baratron From: baratron Date: 8th June 2008 23:01 (UTC) (Link)
Ha! Yes, if I knew anything about commercial clothing production, I would set up a company called It's All Gone Pear Shaped, selling jeans, trousers and dresses to pear-shaped women from size 8 to 38 (although, probably, specialising in the larger end of that, because it's not the end of the world for a size 8 woman to have to wear size 12 jeans with a belt; whereas it is immensely hasslesome if the size your bottom needs doesn't exist).

I really like the kind of dresses that have a tight top and a flared skirt, so you buy the size that your boobs fit into, knowing that the flare of the skirt means your bum will also fit in. Unfortunately, said dresses are damned hard to come by, as "most women" seem to be significantly less blessed in the waist-to-hip ratio department. I have quite literally been wearing the same super-flared dresses since I was 18, as they fit no matter what size I am; and every time I see one in an acceptable colour & fabric in a shop I'll buy it, because I know they are never in fashion.
From: kshandra Date: 8th June 2008 23:32 (UTC) (Link)
I haven't yet been in to check out the Right Fit Jeans at Lane Bryant since they started advertising it, but I have some hope for the line.

I really like the kind of dresses that have a tight top and a flared skirt, so you buy the size that your boobs fit into, knowing that the flare of the skirt means your bum will also fit in.

Alas, those make me look entirely too pregnant. I need things with a waistline (even if I wind up wearing an overblouse) just to prove that I have one.
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